Hi All, I'm new to music production but been playing guitar and music for … I want to sample off of my CD collection and it is important to me that the sample retains the original recording’s stereo image, so that ruled out the DT for me and I ended up with an MPC Live. People who complain about the stereo samples are fundamentally misunderstanding the usage scenario that the DT was designed around. Also forgot to mention, does the One have a compressor like the DT? Convenient feature but adds to the value. the DT owns here. I tried the Live and the DT and to me the major difference was, that the DT feels much more immediate and 10x faster. Once again, of course we know that the DT is flexible, but it was not designed as a sample loop playback machine. Changing pad size and pad sensors have been a bit of a hit and miss in various Akais AFAIK. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. In this video from Youtuber BoBeats, ... AKAI MPC One - Overview and Workflow Tutorial. Than I bought 2 Didi* devices (for the same Price of a Force) and have not touched my PC for composing a single time. So, I guess people asking for stereo samples either don’t understand that the DT is built around 8 synth voices, or they want a 16 voice Digitakt. edit: ok the caps are now italics thanks. but… On my journey to get away from my computer as much as possible during music creation (because I sit at my computer the full day for work), I also tried the Akai route (Used the Akai Force). Even for mono samples, Roland made sure to add a spread effect on each voice… super stereo indeed. It contains all the necessary tools to make people move to the beat. I dunno there are comparisons to be made but I feel like plenty of people had the same arguments a while back with the Mpc live VS Digitakt… heck Mpc live is used is the price of a digitakt if that says anything. Me, I could never do with one sequence that's 3-5 minutes long…editing that here and there would be too much of a hassle for me. MPC One vs Digitakt. Elektron Digitakt Vs Akai MPC Live: Which Is Better For You? You’ve definitely peaked my interest now. Akai MPC One Spare Parts and Accessories . The DT compressor is software. Like I said, it’s a mono synth architecture with a sample as the sound source. sl1200mk2 February 9, 2020, 11:48pm #378. And as much as I would like a small “everything in the box”, that I can take with me onto the couch, in my small camper van und whatever, the One doesn’t trigger GAS for me. LATEST COURSES. Digitakt Vs. DrumBrute Impact - Workflow Comparison. Of course it can be co-opted to do things like play loops etc that are not one-shot samples, but it will never be as good at things like that as a device like an MPC or a DAW. The entire comment is necessary to understand my point. I’ve always loved how it sounds, so maybe because it’s spoken to me as a polyphonic instrument with unique capabilities, and not as a sampler in my traditional way of looking at it. Also what was a benefit over the DT to me was the ease of exporting, more specifically the “explode tracks” feature. But I‘m more used to elektron workflow. I’m a bit tired of the traditional oscillator sound anyway and have always gravitated towards samples, one way or the other. I do not want a music device that lags. new mpc looks cool but how many bugs is it going to have? I feel the sequencer on the MPC line has a poor UI (wanna zoom in? YouTube followers. It’s not fun at all. The MPC Live II at 3.38kg and 41cm wide is probably still within the limit of being considered portable, although it’s nearly 0.7kg heavier than the original MPC Live. Yeah it seemed aggressive so I had modified it to italics, sorry dude for coming atcha. The cliche apples to oranges I suppose. Either way it actually is the most appealing thing they have made IMO in quite some time. Wow I love it! In the Sonic State video it looked so easy to just export your individual stems. Also once again, if you want to use stereo samples, it has the ability to do so using two tracks and can actually go VERY far down that path. With it’s a smaller screen, small overall size, and limited buttons it’s definitely a watered-down version of its big brother the MPC X. Digitakt is a compact sampling drum machine from Elektron. I’ve never looked at the Digitakt that way. You’re sharing and just happened to find my buttons. (I feel like the Live should of been in this form factor and the One vice versa.) Edit and trim samples with hand gestures on the brilliant 7” touch screen display. But have gravitated towards all the demos where it’s used as a polyphonic synth with that Retro Kit cable. Learn how to sample, sequence and produce your own beats and songs in Akai's standalone touchscreen MPCs; the MPC X, MPC Live, MPC Live II & MPC One!. As much as I liked the features and the power the system has, as others mentioned already: Its a computer with a “DAW” and Buttons. I feel kinda sorry for them having to compete with massive corporations like Akai in some ways, but at the same time if enough of your users (the ones who buy your products) cry out for something, give it to them! You rock dude! I moved more and more back to my PC, because it was the same, just more easy. Posted by 1 month ago. I agree with the core of what you’re saying. I hope that is not a deterrence though because the MPC is … That’s what Elektron says. Which is better, brown bread or white bread? I don’t like being partially quoted when it misrepresents my statement. Somehow the MPC, despite being 13 years older, has a much better sequencer with 32 tracks instead of 8 and proper polyphony including polyphonic sample playing. It probably is the most "complete" option. badbass January 16, 2020, 2:35pm #26. So with the MPC Touch I did all my work inside 1 sequence and never looked back. Owning both a Digitakt and a TR-8S (which is also a beat making powerhouse for sure), I can assure you stereo samples make a lot of sense there, even for one-shot samples. Or witht he RYTM. My comment was already one hundred percent clear, I explicitly stated that it’s a mono synth voice with samples as the sound source. The MPC One is Akai’s brand new introduction into the MPC family, it launched earlier this year at NAMM 2020. I think most people on the forum that own a Digitakt DO understand, and a vocal few do not. Hopefully having competition will help rethink how many developer hours they can sink into a product though! 283.0K. MPC One VS DT? The mpc one sounds feature loaded and was the one I was most sold on. Shame it doesn’t have a built in battery. The grass is not objectively greener on the Akai side. It is a sound creation device, essentially a monophonic synthesizer per track. It’s you that misunderstands the device even if you don’t acknowledge it. In this video, we take an in depth look at the Akai Professional MPC One Standalone sampler, sequencer and production unit. I think if I had the MPC one I would use it all by itself. I’ve owned the mpc Live for over a year (sold it yesterday) actually. But the main reason I sold it was that the DT/DN combo hit my sweet spot and I LOVE the Elektron workflow. One of the ways the Digitakt is kept simpler than Octatrack is that all audio tracks are the same, with a single mode. The MPC on the other hand has exponentially more functionality but that makes it harder to find a role for it other than „complete production centre“ …a role for which it then again lacks those features that would truly make it a „DAW in a box.“. Having to use 2 of the available 8 tracks to play a single stereo sample = no thanks. My only thought is that it’s good for Elektron to have a fire lit under their ass. The MPC One definitely seems like a step forward for the MPC line, though. Elektron Digitakt vs. Octatrack - Workflow Comparison. Wanna delete a series of midi events? The Octatrack has a Slice mode, allowing you to sample a series of drum hits (for example) into a single long file, chop it into regions, and play back the sounds from different notes on a … Not to mention a sd-card slot as well. Close. But we all come to these instruments for different reasons, Akai certainly hits a certain market not really for me though. The MPC is great for finger drumming, sequencing / performing with track mutes, or building entire pieces linearly like in a traditional DAW. would love to see a band pass filter in their next release. and in the bottomline, speaking of competition…this new akai thing is more aiming to and dangerous for roland anyways…, but yup…this looks like a nice machine… Akai MPC Live vs Squarp Pyramid + Digitakt . If I remember correctly the DT has 1gb of +drive opposed to the 2gb or 4gb on the One. Jade Wii explores the later in this useful video. You would need a fully doubled path. Get Started Making Music - A Production Course for Absolute Beginners ADSR Courses. Job done, start going nuts!!! I’ll say this, if stereo sampling were added it would be great, but it would require a totally modified system architecture with every part of the monophonic signal path duplicated. It seems likely that it’s because of the cost effective-ness of assigning developer hours to new features. However, I wouldn’t trade my DT for it. I also want to be clear that my posts here are on topic for the thread as we are discussing features that distinguish the Digitakt from the MPC, a device that can play stereo samples. The Digitakt is NOT a sample playback device. MPC ONE vs DIGITAKT = OCTATRACK mk3 as soon as Elektron get out of the Overbridge quasi-endless tunnel. There is a distinction. LATEST COURSES. This so much. MPC One. I don't think there's anything odd or hard about changing a sequence in the middle. Get Started Making Music - A Production Course for Absolute Beginners ADSR Courses. But somewhere between the promise and the reality of it, that hands on feel just disappears. I own both and would recommend the MPC over the Digitakt. 5. Theres no reason akai cudnt add plocks to that though, For sure. Software seems buggy. Really, did not know that about the compressor. I have the digitakt and love it but the velocity/pressure pads songmode and touch screen etc really look great. Same plastic/clear loud clicky buttons and all. Ya! Hope its just your unit and not every MPC one out there. One is a mono sampling and no velocity machine, while the other is a stereo sampling and velocity sensitive machine. It’s my permanent MIDI hub, even when it doesn’t make a squeak and it pretty much plugs every hole I might have. Conclusion: So yeah it’s nothing new really, the DT is more for the deeper minds, in sound design and everything, whereas the One is more immediate and HipHop driven which of course is their core. Thank you for considering what I said with an open mind!!! They’ve been had this but it’s seems so easy on the One. I know what you mean about that slap. If you’re into what the Digitakt does well, you don’t want an MPC One, I believe. Storage- I should add that I own both devices, a DT and an MPC Live (as well as an MPC1000 and an MPC Studio). Now I’m starting to see why. I also want to tell you, to get stereo samples into the DT, load up any stereo sample in your DAW and hard pan to left first, use the sample from USB option on the DT, play the sample in DAW and it will be captured by DT, choose Track 1 on DT when prompted on which track to load the sample to. The Digitakt is NOT a sample playback device. Granted, the DT has other tricks…. That’s just good business sense. Mine has done this a few times, but not consistently or a lot. Facebook likes. Sure, it’s all about CPU usage in the end. Repeat with sample panned hard right in DAW, choose Track 2 when prompted. The mk3 and digitakt sounds really promising because they seem to have very streamlined workflows that allow you to be creative and come up with rhythms quickly. YouTube followers. There are a bunch of other things the Live can do that DT can’t BUT as for the OP’s question, if you love your DT do not dump it for an MPC because it will not do many things a DT does and even the things they both do they will do in very different ways. The sequencer on it sounds really nice though. Facebook likes. Guess because it sounded good to me. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Not a software/plugin type, but real circuitry that affects the sound. Digitakt is a much more focused device, shines as a drum machine but it can do some other cool tricks. I’m definitely not calling all DT owners idiots and presenting myself as some sort of genius, just responding directly to the criticisms of no stereo samples and nothing else. The whole AKAI “DAW in a box” thing with the Live was paradoxically a creativity killer for me. It has odd baked-in limitations but they don't really bother me. …i’m an old mpc head…and as much i ranted about all that new akai concepts for not beeing the real thing anymore, i must admit, this mpc one starts to get it right again… A digital and highly flexible sound engine, sampling capability, a live-friendly sequencer, dedicated tracks for controlling external MIDI gear, and Overbridge support. I definitely don’t want an MPC, I want an Elektron sampler, I think most of us just want the “best” Elektron sampler they can make…for me if I didn’t have my octatraks I’d just stick with a laptop and my Renoise just to keep it in the family lol! I’ve heard things about the MPC workflow that makes it seem like it would take getting adapted to- that strongly discourages me. 1. Build Quality- Perhaps, given the price difference it's not strictly a fair comparison, but it's one that many musicians and producers have been making of late due to both machines being available here and now. Suddenly, pairing a Digitakt with my Blackbox for the purpose of making it the synth companion, would make some sense. From all the reviews and demos, the Digitackt looks much more intuitive and streamlined. 212K. This might be a bit confusing as you need a sample loaded to “create sound” - DT doesn’t really create sound on its own - so it has the functionality commonly associated with a mono synth, but it is not a mono synth. Elektron’s Octatrack (now in its second iteration) is a also a staple of creative sampling and music production in general. MPC One also features our signature synth engines, Electric, Tubesynth and Bassline, as well as our premium AIR FX for mixing & mastering. Elektron samplers bring a unique flavor to the Sampler market, I wouldn’t honestly compare the two myself (two very different companies, and two very different approaches)…that said though, Elektron has matured to a “high expectation” company, and they’ve surpassed their cult status of ol’. In fact, if someone were to use stereo samples exclusively, the DT can be thought of as a 4 voice SUPER STEREO since each channel will have its own stereo panning, sound shaping, and modulation abilities. The brand new Akai MPC Live is basically a DAW, sampler, and sequencer in one slick box. Question. ... AKAI MPC One - Overview and Workflow Tutorial. The constant complaining about no stereo samples gets old when you can use the device with so much flexibility. Article by Denis1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, Add to cart. MPC ONE delivers a truly empowering hands-on experience, ready for any music production task. I don’t like the digitakt because lack of velocity pads though. The Force has a lot of buttons to press and turn, but I was forced a lot to work on the touch screen and for my opinion, the UI and the workflow on it needs heavy improvements. Whatever floats your boat. I frame it that way because it is literally the system architecture of the DT as laid out in the manual diagram. HiGrade, read what I wrote about how a stereo sample can be used in the DT. MPC ONE vs DIGITAKT = OCTATRACK mk3 as soon as Elektron get out of the Overbridge quasi-endless tunnel. I don’t think this complaint is a misunderstanding of that supposed usage scenario. The new Mpc units have a lot going for them, and are basically a DAW, I think a lot of people get hung up on the workflow being heavily touch screen based and it not being too different than a good controller and a DAW. Ill-Green wrote:The Digitakt is crazy, Elektron says there is no slice function but I see you can chop rapidly when done manually with the knobs and copy samples at sections within the sample, its crazy to explain but I understand it.Thats why I want one. That is an interesting way of framing it, and may be some people’s way of using the DT. Hey all, I was looking at the MPC Live as the central piece for my hardware only studio, but now wondering if the combination of the Pyramid and a Digitakt maybe a better combination. HiGrade1 January 16, 2020, 6:50pm #42 Having to use 2 of the available 8 tracks to play a single stereo sample = no thanks. Akai MPC One Stuff. Elektron has made sampling a pivotal component to their product lines, and it’s been a very successful addition, it’s definitely time for Elektron to flex a little, We all know the sampler we want and we know Elektron can make it (actually 2 samplers we want them to make lol!!). What is more, while the MPCs are very capable machines, they seem to always inexplicably lack a critical feature here or there…case in point for this line: multitimbral midi support or midi mapping global functions. I think most samplers are not specifically one or the other and are somewhere on the spectrum between “sample playback device” and “sound creation device”. Question. Sorry if that seems nitpicky, but I think it clarifies a bit (hopefully). As a utility device it is incomparable (usb host, Bluetooth, Air effects, SSD drive to name a few) but working on the device is so unbelievably uninspiring. To me the MPC line is no competition to the Digitakt (or any other Elektron device for that matter). Anyone any thoughts? 1 Like. Which standalone is right for me? With the Akai MPC One, you have everything you need to produce hard-hitting, unforgettable music — music that is uniquely yours. I have to agree with some of the other members comments “competition” is a good thing…Akai has definitely made a statement, and Mpc 1’s price point makes it obvious what market they’re gunning for. that still can’t stream for real…by the way…streaming audio files…remember…that skill, the ot offers since a decade…. But, its basically a computer. Once you are familiar you can do an astounding amount of sequencing/sampling/ live play with the MPC. MPC swing magic is a myth, it’s been fully debunked by the creator. But thanks for saying. And once 2.7 hit I I started noticing occasional lagging I felt like that was the last straw for me. As a former MPC user, there is a learning curve. DT (and my DN) both just have that “something” sound wise, whereas my MPC Live always sounded a bit … sterile? so let’s see if akai can really deliver this time, as they always promise, every year again… The MPC Live also lacks hardware controls critical to a hands-on workflow (eg buttons for modes…instead it has + / - buttons which are pretty much useless…the MPC One remedies this to some extend but eg the awkward Q-Links mapping and the lack of eg a Macros page still limits eg immediate hands on control of onboard effects). The MPC Live might be the more capable of the machines. If you want a more in-depth comparison, we'd highly recommend watching our video courses (the recorded live lectures are even free) for the Akai MPC Live and the Elektron Digitakt . I always thought the DT had some kind of Analog Heatness implemented lol and was just delayed due to software issues. The Digitakt takes the scenic route to a destination that’s not as far as the new MPCs. The latter, while fun, feels quite hobbled. A laptop bitwig 3 and a good controller is what I would do if I were going for a DAW type music making experience. Also, I see that your comment was flagged and want you to know that I did not flag you. The DT has a hands-on immediacy from sound generating features over the effects all the way to the sequencer that the MPC line just can‘t match.